Towards a philosophy of prediction III: events or worlds, propositions or narratives?

3 min and 25 sec to read, 855 words What is it we predict when we predict something? The perhaps most common belief seems to be that we predict events, so that we predict event E will occur with some probability P. But how do we divide the world into…

3 min and 55 sec to read, 980 words

What is it we predict when we predict something? The perhaps most common belief seems to be that we predict events, so that we predict event E will occur with some probability P. But how do we divide the world into events? What is an event? It cannot be a single moment in time, isolated from all other moments, since that would mean that we could not predict it in any meaningful way. A prediction relies on a web of causality of some sort, or at least a web of some kind of connections to the event that we are trying to predict — an event is not an isolated moment, it is the product of at least a set of other moments. 1 There is surely some kind of connection with Quine’s web of belief here. See on his holism: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/quine/ and equally there is a connection to Whitehead’s philosophy of process and event here, see https://philarchive.org/archive/MASRTC-3

But this presents another problem: how do we decide which events E(1)…E(N) go into the set of relevant preceding events when we want to predict a specific event E (x)? One image here would be that of a landscape – where we are predicting a point in the landscape on the basis of other adjacent points, and even if the entire landscape can contribute to the prediction’s accuracy, it does so only marginally. Predicting our event requires understanding the adjacent event space in some way – and determining that space is really hard (this is sort of what super forecasters do when they turn a prediction into a Fermi-problem with a set of factors that will impact the probability of an event. Identifying the baseline is a bit like identifying the neighbourhood of the event, perhaps).

In some sense, however, all predictions are predictions of worlds. If I predict Bill Clinton will win the election I predict that we will be in a world W such that Bill Clinton is president of the United States in that world. “World” here is shorthand for the entire state space we are in, among all possible state spaces of the universe (indeed, we should probably also be able to say that we are predicting universes).

So which is it? Are we predicting events or worlds? Is there a difference? Does it matter? It seems as if the mental image we have when we are predicting is different – predicting an event is like predicting which card will be drawn from a deck, whereas predicting a world seems more like envisioning a future wholesale. But that is not enough to argue that there is a meaningful difference, I think. But there is something about this distinction that still makes sense, if nothing else as a tool for checking our predictions. If we predict an event, it should be compatible with the world we predict overall — and so the prediction of a point in the landscape needs to be compatible with what we know about the space of possible landscapes. If I predict an event E that is not possible in any conceivable world, my prediction is a curious kind of mistake.

Equally, we may benefit from remembering that adjacency is not determined only by proximity in space and time — some events can be predicted by looking at something that happened a long time ago, far away. Some people’s actions are determined by events and experiences in their childhood, for example, and predicting what they will do next may depend not on what they have just done, but by who they are (identity-based predictions are in a sense world-predictions. A person who loves dogs, cats and other animals may have had a bad encounter with a snake in their childhood and may react badly to a snake even though they could have been thought to love animals based on their recent interactions).

There is a lot of connections with Nelson Goodman’s philosophy here, I think. His notion of “world versions” seem especially relevant to the philosophy of predictions. In some way we make worlds when we predict, and those worlds are narratively described, and we then predict the narrative rather than the event. And this seems important as we keep exploring this subject: events are atomistic, propositional, and our thinking is not propositional. When we predict something we rarely predict a proposition — even though this is often how prediction is framed.

A simple example would be the prediction that Bill Clinton would be president. That prediction might be formulated as “the probability P that the proposition “Bill Clinton is president” is true at time t” — but when we predict we predict stories, or narratives, so it is more like “the probability P that the story that ends with Bill Clinton winning the election at time T ends up being true”. This matters, since the unit of prediction matters for understanding how good predictions are composed. 2 This leads us to the questions about rationality. Kahneman’s and Tversky’s bankperson Linda is an interesting example that I wrote more about here. See e.g. here.

Exploring a philosophy of predictions requires understanding what it is that is predicted – events or worlds, propositions or stories (narratives).3 Or if we should speak about predicting “a web” or “a tree” in some way. See interesting discussion here: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137472519_8

These are questions of how we configure a problem. Problem configuration is an undervalued question that would be worth more attention — and it is not just about framing, either — even if the two are closely related.4 Note to self: it would be good to explore the configuration of problems more in detail – and how it relates to epistemology.

Footnotes and references

  • 1
    There is surely some kind of connection with Quine’s web of belief here. See on his holism: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/quine/ and equally there is a connection to Whitehead’s philosophy of process and event here, see https://philarchive.org/archive/MASRTC-3
  • 2
    This leads us to the questions about rationality. Kahneman’s and Tversky’s bankperson Linda is an interesting example that I wrote more about here. See e.g. here.
  • 3
    Or if we should speak about predicting “a web” or “a tree” in some way. See interesting discussion here: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137472519_8
  • 4
    Note to self: it would be good to explore the configuration of problems more in detail – and how it relates to epistemology.
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One response to “Towards a philosophy of prediction III: events or worlds, propositions or narratives?”

  1. And here is Claude’s rebuttal, factual, and quite good:

    “While the note presents an interesting exploration of the nature of prediction, it ultimately falls short in providing a clear and practical understanding of what we predict. I would argue for a more pragmatic and flexible approach to understanding prediction.
    Rebuttal:

    False dichotomy between events and worlds:

    The note creates an unnecessary dichotomy between predicting events and predicting worlds. In reality, predictions often involve elements of both. By framing it as an either/or question, the note oversimplifies the complex nature of prediction.

    Overemphasis on philosophical constructs:
    While philosophical inquiry has its place, the note’s focus on abstract concepts like “world versions” and narrative predictions may obscure more practical considerations. This approach risks losing sight of the concrete, measurable aspects of prediction that are crucial in real-world applications.

    Neglect of probabilistic thinking:
    The note downplays the importance of probabilistic thinking in prediction. Modern predictive methods often rely heavily on probability distributions and uncertainty quantification, which are not adequately addressed in the philosophical framework presented.

    Lack of consideration for different types of predictions:
    The note fails to distinguish between different types of predictions (e.g., point predictions, interval predictions, distributional predictions) and how they might require different conceptual frameworks.

    A Better Approach:
    I propose that a more useful way to answer the question “What is it we predict?” is to focus on the practical aspects of prediction and adopt a more flexible, context-dependent framework:

    Outcomes and their distributions:
    At its core, prediction is about anticipating future outcomes. These outcomes can be discrete events, continuous variables, or complex states. We predict not just single points but often entire distributions of possible outcomes.

    Causal relationships:
    We predict the effects of various factors on outcomes. This involves understanding and modeling causal relationships between variables, which can range from simple linear relationships to complex, nonlinear interactions.

    Patterns and trends:
    Predictions often involve identifying and extrapolating patterns or trends from historical data. This can include cyclical patterns, long-term trends, or emergent phenomena.

    Decision-relevant information:
    What we predict is often shaped by the decisions we need to make. We predict information that is actionable and relevant to specific decision-making contexts.

    Uncertainties and risks:
    An essential part of prediction is quantifying and communicating uncertainties and risks associated with different outcomes.

    System states and dynamics:
    In complex systems, we often predict how the overall state of a system will evolve over time, considering various interacting components.

    Conditional futures:
    Predictions frequently take the form of “if-then” statements, exploring how different initial conditions or interventions might lead to different outcomes.

    This framework acknowledges that what we predict can vary greatly depending on the context, the available data, the methods used, and the ultimate purpose of the prediction. It allows for a more nuanced and practical approach to understanding prediction across various fields, from science and engineering to business and policy-making.

    By focusing on these elements, we can develop a more robust and useful understanding of prediction that bridges philosophical considerations with practical applications. This approach recognizes the complexity of prediction while providing a clearer path to improving predictive practices across different domains.”

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